tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post116274323631097990..comments2023-10-30T07:49:39.886-04:00Comments on Goonerboy: Farce and mountains of frustration at Upton Park: where do Arsenal go from here?Goonerboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10489244017423718503noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162856984438841222006-11-06T18:49:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:49:00.000-05:00I'm starting to think Arsenal 3 is a red herring -...I'm starting to think Arsenal 3 is a red herring - a place marker to keep us happy while our real kids grow up. I mean it's a good team, but what about Arsenal 4? <BR/>Traore, Djourou, Senderos, Eboue.<BR/>Walcott, Muamba, Fabregas, Merida.<BR/>Bendter, Lupoli/StokesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162838128599831912006-11-06T13:35:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:35:00.000-05:00West Ham will be relegated next year :) Come on yo...West Ham will be relegated next year :) Come on you spursAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162817621739390112006-11-06T07:53:00.000-05:002006-11-06T07:53:00.000-05:00I was there yesterday and it was clear to me, pena...I was there yesterday and it was clear to me, penalty or no penalty, that we didn't deserve anything from that game. We need to face facts - we were outmuscled in midfield again and we can't hide behind the normal excuses about the other team not trying to play football because west ham did make a game of it, we just didn't respond. We created two, maybe three chances at most and Henry was, again, largely anonymous. When you go away from home in the premiership you need more muscle in midfield as it's vital to stamp your authority on this area early on. this is what Vieira was of course so good at. It's less important in europe as teams allow you more space to play in midfield as the game is more technical and less about pressing the guy on the ball. It's no coincidence we won at OT as their midfield is currently not up to it but god help us when we play chelsea. <BR/><BR/>Playing hleb and rosicky in the same midfield doesn't work except in europe or at home. You have to have someone like diaby (when fit again) or the beast (when he's back) to play there at places like bolton, boro, west ham. If you're playing a 5-man midfield, still the best option, then you'll have room for cesc, VP, and one of either hleb or rosicky and/or freddie. we'll have more options at any rate. There's no cause for panic but we have to LEARN from this. <BR/><BR/>Coin throwing apart, I was impressed with west ham yesterday, if they keep playing like that they won't struggle this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162812682582288662006-11-06T06:31:00.000-05:002006-11-06T06:31:00.000-05:00Arsenal's football, while fantastic when being pla...Arsenal's football, while fantastic when being played at its best, is extremely frustrating when all of our wonderful creativity is not complimented with goals. I think I'm with the larger group of fans that would be willing to see us lose a little of our attractive play if more goals were scored and we won more games. There is a silver lining to these frustrating outcomes we have been getting lately. I believe that losses like the ones at West Ham and even moreso Man. City will only help to encourage our young rising superstars to get the one thing that they seemingly lack at the moment - a ruthless attitude towards killing off subpar opponents. I believe in this young Arsenal team. It is capable of achieving more than all the previous winning teams we have had. The hard lessons they are learning will fuel their ambitions and force them to become winners or else they will not make it at the club. I know it is not Mr. Wengers style but a blowdryer treatment may just jumpstart our scoring. The diplomatic method is not making us any tougher or better at taking our chances. Our ratio of goals vs chances must dramatically improve if we are to realize our full potential. I believe it will get better. We have too many smart players to think that they will be content with the current ratio. When that happens some helpless opponent will be on the wrong end of an absolute avalanche of goals from These Young Gunners. <BR/><BR/>Ztreblequest....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162812567726533432006-11-06T06:29:00.000-05:002006-11-06T06:29:00.000-05:00Despite the (quite infuriating) fact that West Ham...Despite the (quite infuriating) fact that West Ham seem to raise their game when they play US, I still have rather a soft spot for the Hammer organisation.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps this stems from the merry Di Canio days, or maybe it is just the fact that West Ham have never bought themselves out of trouble. (until the Mascherano/Tevez travesty of course). <BR/><BR/>But West Ham has always been a pleasent and decent club to watch with dedicated fans who share support the team despite some considerable hardships. (Imagine losing Rio, Lampard, Carrick, Defoe, Kanoute, Cole. etc. and still keep the faith in your team). <BR/><BR/>The game this sunday apart (the ill fated nature of which clearly stems from the unrest in the West Ham back room) I will wish the Hammers fans the best of luck, and I hope that you avoid the tragedy that would be, should you be taken over by some Iranian business mogul). Keep your money, and stay away from our game. This is our culture and our lives, not your toys for when you get bored and want think that it might look good on your portfolio. <BR/><BR/>Let's stamp out the money and greed from the game and clean up everyone's acts (not just Wenger and Pardew's. After all, the only thing they are guilty off is being human and reacting accordingly. They are not the real sinners who should be in the headlines. Kia Joorabchian (or whatever his name is) and Roman should be under scrutiny. <BR/><BR/>However, that is only my opinion and I could be wrong. <BR/><BR/>To all a great week. <BR/><BR/>Gus J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162802848488657132006-11-06T03:47:00.000-05:002006-11-06T03:47:00.000-05:00I've probably come into this too late for anyone t...I've probably come into this too late for anyone to notice, but for me there are a couple of key issues that are worth focusing on (arsenal's performance, not wenger's antics which I missed after I changed the channel in disgust): <BR/><BR/>Henry/RvP/Rosicky/Hleb/lack of goals: For me TH is not really the issue here. Yes he's been playing like a plonker in the last couple of games, but he has patches like this every season. He's got 5 goals in 8 this season and was so unfit in the first 2 games, I think you can barely count them. My point is that he's still on track to finish at least in the mid 20s this season. The thing about TH is that we've never been able to rely on him to score away from home (except at The Valley) and instead needed the likes of Freddie or Pires to nick one early and lay the platform. This is what isn't happening at the moment.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that none of Cesc, Gilbs, Hleb or Rosicky are goalscorers. We don't have a midfielder who can nick one! I firmly believe Rosicky will become a player who can contribute 10 a season, the problem is it won't be this season and even then he won't score Freddie goals. Alex Hleb is the best player in the team at the moment (unless I'm watching another game). He's the only one who looks like a game breaker, but because he too is not a goalscorer he needs help, someone to finish his moves for him. What we really lack is someone else who can make the runs for our attacking midfield three. As much as I rate RvP, he is too static and self-reliant (not a criticism) to fill this role. Adebayor has shown glimpses of this ability, but his finishing is often woeful and though I think we'll see him starting now that he's fit, he's got a lot of work to do. We do have the perfect player at the club, unfortunately he's not ready yet and is out on loan at Derby. Arturo my boy, we need you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162802016667498792006-11-06T03:33:00.000-05:002006-11-06T03:33:00.000-05:00Get Aliadere, Bendtler and Lupoli back. We need so...Get Aliadere, Bendtler and Lupoli back. We need some real strikers who can put the ball in the net. With the amount of chances we are creating, we are becoming a joke not taking any of them. Henry is becoming really casual in his play I notice too. We need some new blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162799332890673542006-11-06T02:48:00.000-05:002006-11-06T02:48:00.000-05:00West ham fans are not racist thugs.They are just m...West ham fans are not racist thugs.<BR/><BR/>They are just massively stupid.<BR/><BR/>First they start off booing Lehman for no apparent reason right from the kickoff.<BR/><BR/>Then their players start clobbering ours and the fans start booing the players who get clobbered.<BR/><BR/>Van persie was booed for Spectre stamping on him.<BR/><BR/>Hleb was booed again for being hacked in the box.<BR/><BR/>Nice decent behaviour doesnt get rewarded. Maybe Arsenal need players like Essien and Drogba who tackle dirty and dive.<BR/><BR/>That is what this side is lacking. Vieira would have worked this referee nicely and ensured that penalty was given.<BR/><BR/>We are just too NICE a side now, and the other teams are taking advantage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162777220281667742006-11-05T20:40:00.000-05:002006-11-05T20:40:00.000-05:00We all know west ham are a crap team,pardew is a c...We all know west ham are a crap team,pardew is a crap manager and their fans are a bunch of racist thugs.After three weeks they will be back where they belong,the relegation zone.Watch this space.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162775540371004282006-11-05T20:12:00.000-05:002006-11-05T20:12:00.000-05:00Wenger should have knocked out that fool pardew.I ...Wenger should have knocked out that fool pardew.I hope west ham are relegated this season.A lucky win today and you think they are the best team in the world.I hope these fools are relegated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162761732200444862006-11-05T16:22:00.000-05:002006-11-05T16:22:00.000-05:00Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooary...Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?<BR/>Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya? Hooarya?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162756547166662152006-11-05T14:55:00.000-05:002006-11-05T14:55:00.000-05:00why cant arsenal play like west ham with courage a...why cant arsenal play like west ham with courage and fight.<BR/>they fall over expect to get decisions and even little matty ethrington can outmuscle flamini<BR/>sheringham came on and we knew west ham were looking to win the game we were just poor on the day and keep missin chancesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162756327972709452006-11-05T14:52:00.001-05:002006-11-05T14:52:00.001-05:00yer the gooners boss never sees anything when the ...yer the gooners boss never sees anything when the opposition should get a decision. Face it arsenal fans you are all poor losers outfought on the day by a better team not a bunch of spoilt individuals who too easily fall over...haha its getting a good habit taking 3 points of the gooners....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162756320248521572006-11-05T14:52:00.000-05:002006-11-05T14:52:00.000-05:00hleb misses eboue's penetration down the right..qu...hleb misses eboue's penetration down the right..quite why the former came off when the latter ultimately came on is beyond me..most crucially however is the absence of a player we haven't yet seen but who be will crucial.. baptista..rosicky and fab are too similar to play together centrally, however the beast's fave position is the one rosicky is currently occupying and he will provide the power and scoring option we need..when he comes back rosicky has to play on the left and form the relationship with clichy that pires had with cole..with hleb and eboue down the right and rosicky and clichy on the left with the beast powering through the centre we'll be unstoppable againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162756172841640982006-11-05T14:49:00.000-05:002006-11-05T14:49:00.000-05:00Two games without a goal...let's hope the kids can...Two games without a goal...let's hope the kids can do it at Everton in midweek...and how about Stokes scoring his second hat-trick on loan in Scotland.Bendtner starring for Brum and Lupoli a cult figure at Derby....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162755909993087102006-11-05T14:45:00.000-05:002006-11-05T14:45:00.000-05:00well u forgot to say west ham outfought arsenal al...well u forgot to say west ham outfought arsenal all over the pitch<BR/>and Arsene wenger is a poor sport!!<BR/>anyway its good for english football that the french were outfoughtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162752053393952002006-11-05T13:40:00.000-05:002006-11-05T13:40:00.000-05:00We do have a midfielder on our books who can in th...We do have a midfielder on our books who can in theory mix it up a la Paddy.... It's Abou Diaby... but unfortunately at the end of last season a Sunderland player tried to detatch Diaby's foot at the ankle.... and he's still recovering. But when he is better, hopefully it'll give us aption of a "spikier" midfield if that's what we need...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162751818791882672006-11-05T13:36:00.000-05:002006-11-05T13:36:00.000-05:00we didnt deserve to win.dont know about you here i...we didnt deserve to win.<BR/>dont know about you here is a couple of notes:<BR/>A. hoyte has forgotten his role of<BR/>running on the wing for hleb.<BR/>why not bring eboue on from the start.<BR/>B. Wenger, Rosicky, Henry is destroying RvP's game. he is the best Arsenal striker inform at the moment.<BR/>he is not a bloody winger!!!<BR/>nor he should be playing on the left,he is a center forward with an option to drift to the Right<BR/>Henry should not force RVP to the left wing he should be the one running down the left side and cut inside.<BR/>and finally rosicky he is no way a central attacking midfielder or so called a second striker in Bergy's role, he is too weak and short for that role. he should learn Bobby's role<BR/>of a left midfielder cutting inside and not pushing RVP to the left. and wenger with his 4-5-1 tactics WTF???? Arsenal are a pure 442 team.<BR/>but i do concede RVP must improve his passing game overall and the understanding with henry<BR/>C.henry in wonderland.<BR/>i dont know tired ? maybe...<BR/>the first thing i think he should is to stop talking and making friends with every opponent player including bench warmers. he is an Arsenal Captian he should fight for<BR/>our team our players and be there.<BR/>he isnt focused , losing easy balls, slipping, maybe its the new shoes...(just sayin')<BR/>he must take things more on his own.he should stop waiting for balls from Rosicky/Cesc he should take the balls from them and start the running things around.<BR/>wake up man!<BR/>D. Cesc should take control back of arsenal. he is the main man not rosicky and should tell rosicky to go to god damn flank. he is the boss of arsenal midfield.<BR/>E. last but not least... what happend to the double pass???<BR/>arsenal have used this routin only once , the result was hleb running inside the hammers's box. arsenal werent flouid they looked like they ran out of ideas.. double passes, quick passes,short passing,<BR/>high tempo football.<BR/>what's with all that crosses from the wings????? we should keep the ball at our feet much more affective than wasting them ...<BR/><BR/>these notes are only from this game<BR/>alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162749315450788452006-11-05T12:55:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:55:00.000-05:00Chill, goonerboy, it's gonna come together soonChill, goonerboy, it's gonna come together soonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162748611582013342006-11-05T12:43:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:43:00.000-05:00And with the Scum from the Lane leading Chavski 2-...And with the Scum from the Lane leading Chavski 2-1 the afteroon can hardly get any worse. The truth is that RvP and Thierry can't really play together...two games without a goal and Liverpool next Sunday....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162748571633314482006-11-05T12:42:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:42:00.000-05:00Pardew apologized so something was said or done. A...Pardew apologized so something was said or done. Arsenal were again out muscled and as a gooner 4 ever it is starting to piss me off. To be honest, we need to start hacking players down ourselves. We were a much better side when we had the aggression of Veira and Razor. Other teams dont seem to mind doing it to us so lets give it back. We are not a bad team, I feel we just want to play the perfect pass and when TH14 is in his disinterested state of mind then there is no one to pick up the batton. <BR/>Come on Arsenal, we are better than West Ham and Man City. Lets get stuck in. Play Theo and Ali.<BR/>Mr Wenger, if Pardew did annoy you, let it go. Pardew says things to get under your skin. He is in the same category as Fat Sam. Dont pull out the handbags. The best thing is for us to give them a hiding at the grove and then lets see his reaction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162748371920672622006-11-05T12:39:00.001-05:002006-11-05T12:39:00.001-05:00Yeah...cos Gallas cleanly played the ball without ...Yeah...cos Gallas cleanly played the ball without getting anywhere near Bowyer.<BR/><BR/>Whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162748370112385662006-11-05T12:39:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:39:00.000-05:00Mourinho celebrates & gestures in an arrogant, inc...Mourinho celebrates & gestures in an arrogant, inciteful way in midweek & even the president of UEFA slates him publicly for it. Pardew shows the same disrespect to an opposing manager & SKY & the BBC are very quick to excuse the actions. What is the difference between Pardew & Mourinho exactly? Oh yes, that's right, he's English so it's all ok. <BR/><BR/>In fact, what's the difference between Pardew doing this & a player goading opposition fans? Yes, that's right, the player will get booked for inciting the fans because if everyone was allowed to goad the opposition we'd have riots every weekend. There's no excuse for Wenger shoving Pardew but if Pardew is in Wenger's face, in the away technical area, after goading him during the game too, then that needs to be looked at very closely & acted on because that's the exactly the action the FA have legislate against with regards to the players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162748029305599362006-11-05T12:33:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:33:00.000-05:00The Gallas challenge was in no way a penalty. Arse...The Gallas challenge was in no way a penalty. Arsene did not have to see it.Goonerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10489244017423718503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22806182.post-1162747869491036422006-11-05T12:31:00.000-05:002006-11-05T12:31:00.000-05:00Spot on Jackanakanory. Lets not forget that Bowyer...Spot on Jackanakanory. Lets not forget that Bowyer was taken out by Gallas (who got none of the ball) but Wenger and the Arsenal fans conveniently 'deed not see eet'. We have taken 7 points out of a possible 9 off you since our return to the Premiership....I thought you would've been used to it by now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com